I think it hurt
something inside of me when I read about you.
I used to think my life growing up had been rough, and maybe in it's own way it was. Something deep inside me cried out that such things could happen to you Margie, and your siblings.
If you even write back I know you will tell me what I have read and heard are lies. Yet I feel the truth in them.
We are here... to learn and to grow... to forge the soul... to become stronger beings. Mortal life is the true hell... the true test. Almost all religions on this Earth have appeared to ignore the fact that life isn't all fun. Kind of like they want to delude humankind into believing this is paradise.
I am trying so hard to keep this from becoming hate mail. But I won't hate you or even your father. Instead I choose to hate religion and the power it gives people over people. And yes, I too do not care for America, my country, for the greed it embraces. The intolerance. The hate. The confusion.
I have an older friend. He is gay. I once asked him why he was gay. He told me that ever since he was a young child he has always known. Kind of like how I have always known that I like women. How do you explain that?
Mankind is flawed, any fool can see that. They even say such things in the bible. Men wrote that bible you preach from.
The Place. Pick yourself up and find your own Place. I'm still looking for mine, but I'll be damned if ANYONE thinks they can tell me where mine is and expect me to follow along like a gullible sheep.
Casey

DIRECTORY:
Not everyone hates Homosexuals
Letters from those who do not know the definition of "Homophobe"
Oddball Letters
Religious Reactions

ENCOUNTERS WITH THE PHELPS CLAN

NOTE: I've put all comments by any of the members of the Phelps family in red. You can also read some background on Pastor Fred Phelps from a court document, not all of his kids like him.

To the creator of this website [godhatesfags.com],

First of I have to say that this site is one of the most deplorable and inane sites that I have come across on the Internet during the time that I have spend on here. It is degrading, belittling and highly prejudice against a community of people, like myself, who just want to be treated equally with dignity and respect.
Firstly, what does this site teach our children? Not only does it teach our children to harass, hate, belittle against those who aren’t part of a majority but it also teaches our children that it is ok to prejudice against people different to themselves and not just homosexuals but coloured people, people of different religions and also people who have disabilities amongst a few.
We don’t want or need to be ridiculed publicly. We don’t desire the slander and hate that your site and society dishes out to us and uses the bible as a focaul point for your arguments in just as deplorable and disrespectful to us as it is to the people that wrote it.
I my self am not Christian or Catholic but I still believe that using the bible to fuel a fire of your own personal attitude is a sin. The bible is there to teach people right from wrong, not to teach us to hate and abuse each other.
Because of this site and the negative feedback that society hears about us. We are subject to ridicule, abuse, gay bashings and various hate crimes everyday and we do not need or desire that kind of treatment. I do not deserve to be humiliated publicly, to be abused or remarked about. I do not deserve to have jokes, abuse and names yelled at me. I am a normal human being with thoughts and feelings. We are no different to you. We have two arms, two legs and a heartbeat. Just as you do.
How can loving someone be so wrong? There cant be anything wrong with gay men because hetrosexaul couples indulge in anal sex as well.
There cant be anything wrong with gay females because hetrosexaul couples do exactly the same thing. Also most sex toys available that lesbian’s use, have been produced for hetrosexaul women.
How can you ague that something is so wrong when you haven’t even experienced it yourself? You views and opinions are yours and I respect your views. I just don’t have to agree with them.
Your obvious ignorance on the matter is appalling. Do you know what it feels like to be bashe? I can defend myself but a m,ajority of people can not. Do you know what it feels like to have abuse and obscenities yelled at you? To have your home destroyed and everything you own destroyed simply because people do not understand?
It is easy for you to type material up on a webpage and preach for all to hear but have you every stop to think just who you are hurting? We don’t aske for this.How would you feel if I created a website proclaiming god hated a minority of people just because they are not in a majority? Because they feel differently?
We deserve equals rights and the right to be able to spend the rest of our lives with someone we love in holy matrimony, under the eyes of god in a church.
God doesn’t hate sinners. He hates sin. Meaning he doesn’t hate homosexuals just what we do which is know different to what a heterosexual couple do, does this mean that god hates heteorsexauls as well?
Why is it that there are pedophiling priests taking away the innocence of little children and no one gives a danm? Why is it when a priests say he has molesting little BOYS [same sex] does it go unnoticed? Why is it that there are rapists, murders, paedophiles and people that torture and maim just for the fun of it and people are more worried about what two people of the same sex do in their bedroom.
It’s our lives, you shouldn’t worry about it. YOU don’t have to live our life. I’m proud of who I am and what I represent. I represent a minority that faces new challenges everyday and I don’t back down from shit lickers and scum that have no idea what they are on about.
They can preach the words but do they understand them? Obviously not.
You people hate and fear us because you do not understand. Its that simple. There are thousands of children, teenagers and adults that suicide, mutilate and destroy themselves all because people don’t understand. I myself have be to counselling and but because of depression and attempted suicide because of the slander and abuse that I constantly receive everyday from people like you that think you are doing the RIGHT thing and don’t stop to think who you are hurting.
Also what the fuck is up with stereotypes?
Excuse the language but just because someone looks like a gothic doesn’t mean they are one, or wears a pentacle and pride symbol doesn’t mean that they are gay and pagan [which in my case it does].
Ok Bad example but you people get at what I am talking about right?.
Not ALL gay woman dress butch/femme, not all Goth’s are Bondage/Leather loving Sado-masochistic, wearers of black or violent when provoked. Which is some of the things this cock monger said.
Scary thing, he was right about this little black duck.
Pun intended.
Again sorry about the language.
But I’m pissed off and Australian and that’s my excuse.
Deal with it.
Why must people continually define people into categories and belittle then with pieces of shit they call ‘information’ commonly referred to us ‘stereotypes’?
Stereotype: A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
Myth: A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal
Notice the similarity? Oversimplified conception, opinion.
It may very well be a opinion but it sucks arse.
Dictionary definition. Come-on people, I can read, I been said to be quite intelligent enough to be able to do that, hopefully some of the idiotic wankers out there can to.
Why must people continue to be prejudice and bigoted towards people that don’t fit into the illusions of life?
Get your heads out of your arses people this is the real world. N0 one wants or deserves your bullshit anymore.
I do NOT spread AIDS. For that to happen I would have to have AIDS and come in contact with someone’s bodily fluids which hasn’t happen for quite sometime.
Involuntary celibacy sucks.
I admit I do dress more blokeish type then girly-girly but only because its what I am comfortable with and I have no desire to be pulled into the commercial world or sheep and big national corporations.
I also have NO desire for a penis.
I dislike penises, why the fuck would I want one?
I am not confused about my sexuality, I am not spasticated, involved in illegal drugs, a Satanist, dying of my hair or musical inclined and/or suicidal.
I’ve gotten over that. The depression and suicide thing I mean. But that is a totally different story and I haven’t finished this one yet.
I am OT a health and safety issue with children or teenagers, I don’t recruit people to my cause or have any known type of disease or disorder nor I am sick in any way. [Only the head].
Surprisingly I have morals, not a conscience as such but the morals are definitely there.
Idiots who over and over again speel all this shit about people even though they don’t not know them and never will, continue to belittle and degrade people because they choose not to do the ‘right’ thing.
Dickheads.
I do not deserve to be a victim or near victim of a hate crime [which thank something has only happen nearly once but there hospital got a bit high so they left me alone], nor does anyone else on this earth. People are raped, killed, murders and tortured or all off the above because they don’t fit normal peoples views.
And the governments are worried about increased Uni fees. Well actually they aren’t because they jacked them up another 25% on top of the already jacked up 30%.
People don’t care about wife beaters, child molesters, rapist, and paedophiles. But if the mention of a drag queen in a movie or sight of two men kissing in a public place [never mind the male/female kissing next to time] they will stir the shit pot something feral and to get back at us being ‘immoral’ deny us the right to have a happy ‘normal’ married life.
Why is it that when a male/female couple is seen holding hands they are looked at with admiration? But when a female/female couple is seen holding hands they are looked at with disgust and spat on?
Tell me.
Why?
Cant you fuck-knuckles leave us people alone? Black, Jew, gay, Straight, Bend both ways, Asian it doesn’t matter. Where all human. We all have two harms, two legs and a heartbeat.
No disregard that, the way some people act today, they cannot be classified as humans but my dog has more intelligence. They are amebae, single celled organisms.
I think it deplorable and disrespectful to all people.
You people really need to think about your actions and the consqeunces of those actions before you pull a stunt like this.
Data Wyatt,

And I have to say that the response was exactly what I expected of a site like that.
I congratulate you again and thank you for a wonderful site.

Cheers.
Data.

This is one response Data received from godhatesfags.com which to be quite honest doesn't make a whole lot of sense:

If you don't like it - don't become a member - go wave your rainbow flag and get something peirced.
Since you don't live here - you live why don't you shut up and mind your own business - you support men who sodomize each other - good for you - and your shit hole country will get to reap the rewards of it as well.
My country? You Americans are the one making all the fuss over nohting. Get over your dog and grow up.
From: Don Thompson


Dear Brother Jeff!
Hi! My name is Dak (George M Melby) and I have just started reading you attrociously funny webpage...may I congratulate you on fracturing my funnybone...not many people can do that!
I have in the last two months bumped into Freddy's gang here in Kansas City, MO and I must say I really wanted to kick the crap out of the guy...only HE wasn't with the group! He sends his children and grandchildren out to do his dirty work for him!
I just wanted to let you know you are doing a super job and to keep up the good work. We have your page in our Links section on the following Gay Christian Community and invite you to join us, if you would!
http://groups.msn.com/AbsolutelyGayChristianMen
Thank you for your Ministry to the Gay Communities, Jeff!
Sincerely,
Dak! Founder/Advisor/Chaplain of AGCM!

And before anyone accuses Gay people of being violent, Dak is speaking figuratively about kicking the crap out of Fred Phelps.

hey I am a 16 year old from Topeka and i hate to read, but when i came
across the words FUCK YOU FRED PHELPS on my favorite bands site
(anti-flag) i read all of your site, i hate the phelps they go to my school
(topeka west) and always argue with teachers, picket during lunch, and
get on everybody's nerves. one time in geometry i asked them why they
have a sign that says "god destroyed the space shuttle" and "thank god for 9-11" and they gave me some stupid explanation that made no sense about how nasa gets paid to support gay rights and so he blew it up. and also in my speech class we could no longer pick the topics we wanted to write about because jael phelps did this huge speech about how some gay guy killed someone and was crying the whole way through it. I think the best thing that we could do is have anti-flag play here in topeka and have a big protest. but then again im just 16, nobody listens to me...
- Anonymous

Well, I listen to 16 yr olds. And I did respond back to Conner. I told him that he actually should feel sorry for Jael. The poor kid has been brainwashed and will also be an outcast in society because of it.


this is a response I got after asking who funded the church--before I found the Fred Phelps story on www.godhateshomophobes.com.
(From someone named) Brett

Nice try Brett –
Of course you didn’t think anything of the kind. You are a fag, and you are trying to salve your guilty, filthy, God hating conscience by sending some mean-mouth out into cyber-space.
It changes nothing Brett – you are going to hell and there is nothing you can do about it! If you give a care for your evil soul, you will shut your blasphemous mouth and read every word on the www.godhagesfags.com web page and the www.godhatesamerica.com web page. Further, for some good information, see www.fredthemovie.com web page. After that, shut your mouth, and actually READ the Bible.
Now – be a good little pervert and don’t bother writing me again. I have a husband, 11 children (plus a daughter-in-law), 41 nieces/nephews, a law practice, this ministry, and many other people/things that ARE entitled to my time – you are NOT. So, I have added you to my junk senders list, and your goofy nonsense will land in deleted items unseen.
Finally – remember this – you have ONE duty in this life – fear God, keep His commandments, give glory to Him, for the hour of His coming is at hand!
Thanks for writing.
Shirley L Phelps-Roper


Ok...I had not yet heard about the Phelps, having moved away from the Kansas a long time ago. I am personally embarrassed by this, because I am apparently a distant relative. My mother came from a long line of Phelps; and of pastors on both sides of her family. I was considered a christian as a little girl. Until my southern baptist grandmother, maiden name Phelps, took me under her wing when I was but 6. I only stayed with her for a few months. But it was an experience that made me absolutely terrified of Christianity. I have never been able to get over what damage she had done. And she was not in the least bit considered, in Independence, MO, where we lived at the time and where she died, an extremist. So it was not like the mother on Carrie or anything. I was an extremely empathetic child, and her hatred of "gays" and people of any religion other than strictly her own, including other Christian religions (when Kennedy became president, she decided that she was temporarily not a US citizen, simply because he was Catholic). It was because of the most vocally "Christian" person I ever knew that I, to this day, nearly twenty years later, cannot even begin to read the Bible without having flashbacks of scary trips to dark and smelly churches with walls laced with bloody dead corpses (Jesus) where they speak strange languages that sound demonic and eerie and where people pass out and scream like mad and bawl and hit each other in the name of the lord and jerk each other around. I, too, had been victim of so-called "being saved" and remember, at 5, 6, and 7 years old, sitting utterly mute and wide-eyed while my Grandmother, or members of her church, or members of the 700-Club smacked the "demons" out of my head, choked me, violently shook my legs while squeezing my tiny ankles until I thought they would break, and utterly beat the hell out of me...pun intended. And I was an intellegent, quiet, mindful, good-mannered little kid who barely spoke and rarely asked for anything. Possessed? I doubt it.
In any case, because of her and others associated with her religion, I made the serious and concious decision that I could not agree with an organized form of Christianity (and this, even after moving to a nice and quite comforting Methodist Church in Oklahoma) when I was only 11.
I will end that part of my story there, since it's gotten a little out of hand here. I apologize. I would like to tell about my Aunt, the same grandmother's daughter, who took after her. She too, hated gays. But not the one that went to her church and gave more money to the offering than anyone else. Not the same one who went to her church that sponsored more events and did more charity work than anyone and, on top of it, rarely, if ever, gloated or beamed about his christian work. No, the whole wide world of gays was evil and deserved to die and go to hell except this single, wonderful man, named John if I remember, who never, as far as I knew, apologized for his sexuality or allowed any of their insulting proposals and excuses, gestures and whatnot under God's name get to him. He just smiled, said "I understand your point" and left it at that. This is what I heard myself, and what everyone said about him. Suddenly, or should I say, suddenly to everyone living, John died of AIDS. This was back in the eighties. AIDS was still a "gay-man's disease". After the funeral, everyone from the church denounced him. Most simply said, it was God's will and punishment, that God did not want a gay man posing as one of his "sheep". This was another ultimately destructive thing for me to learn. That no matter how much good you do in your entire life, that one small act of something that is a "sin", and you must accept veangance from Him? Was it because John never apologized for it, that he had known he was homosexual for his entire life and learned, I greatly assume with every hardship, to accept himself as his God made him and not fight God's decision that that was the way he wanted him? He utterly must have believed that God does not make mistakes. How could he question God's judgement and apologize?
When I think about it, in a sense, John was another "sacrificial" lamb. He came into their world, took their abuse, and never turned it around on them. He showed them that he was just like them. That God made him too, and that he lived by the Bible as much as they did. He didn't have to stay in a church where they were openly anti-gay. He didn't have to subject himself to their berating and akward glances. He could've found a more understanding church. There are some very "gay-friendly" christian churches. Even in Independence. But he chose to stay there. Hopefully, he left many people with a new understanding.
I leave you now, thanks if you listened, and I'm sorry if you fell asleep.
From Heather

Jeff;
Thanks for the return. A friend told me about Phelps' website. My friend is from Roanoke VA, where a man recently shot up a gay bar. I don't know if you heard about this...
Anyhow, the one person actually killed (6 were shot) was an acquaintance of my friend. He told me this Phelps creep was coming to Roanoke but canceled at the last minute because, "He didn't feel the police there would do enough to protect me." HA! How about that?
Reading the warnings on Phelps' site about not sending any threats or objectionable material really tickled me. The man is deeply ignorant. Plus, it's typical of his type to be enough of a crybaby as to threaten FBI involvement if you send him the wrong e-mail. Sheesh.
Anyway, it's good to see someone like you lash out at Phelps with humor, the most powerful God-given weapon.
Take care.
William Perritt





PHELPS INQUIRIES
These are actual e-mails sent to Godhatesfags.com with responses from Margie Phelps who helps runs the site with her father Pastor Fred Phelps, courtesy of a guy named Anonymouse.

E-mail Exchange #1
Anonymouse: Here's some questions from an undecided sceptic as far as the whole God Jesus thing goes. I'm not an athiest either because I don't feel there is enough proof either way. Maybe God made the "big bang" or oversaw "evolution". Don't know, no one does and if you think you do then good for you. Anyway here's my questions: After Jesus died for our sins, did he go to Heaven? If so how is that a sacrifice. And how is God losing his only son considered a sacrifice if He is almighty and can do anything. Don't let the attitude of these questions come off too sardonic or spiteful or sound like I'm trying to one up you guys or anything, like I said I'm undecided and these are things no one has answered for me yet.

Margie Phelps: You wrote godhatesfags.com questioning whether a true sacrifice was made when God sent his innocent son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for the elect. Your questions about God were answered with some good points.

In addition, you need to realize that this is not about what you find credible or sensible. You're the creature, not the Creator. You can pretend you don't believe in God, but every creature is born with a knowledge of God. The invisible things of nature testify to his existence. The wrath of God is revealed from heaven, every day, against ungodliness and disobedience. It is a myth when humans pretend they are reserving judgment on whether God is real. That kind of talk will evaporate INSTANTLY when you stand before God at the Judgment Seat.

And, if you find yourself doubting the wisdom of God in regard to his decisions to handle certain things in a certain manner, you might contemplate putting your hand to creating your own universe. Since you can see so much better than God how to do things. See how far that gets you. And for your warm up exercise, just to show how you're on such equal par with your Creator, and all, start out just by growing a cubit. You know, before you jump right into that creating-a-universe thing.

You people who pretend like you get to sit around and contemplate whether God is real or right or just -- you are like the fool who says in his heart there is no God. And you're so self-indulgent and self-delusional that it's painful watching and listening to you. Above all that, you're about as independent as a frog in a snake's belly.

You hang on to those me-focused notions, and spread them around on paper and cyberspace. In other words, hold those happy thoughts. Right up to the moment that the wrath of the Lamb is directly in your face. Then see what you think, in all your infinite wisdom. Does that sound like a plan?

Thanks
Margie Phelps

E-mail Exchange #2
Anonymouse: Were you taught this from birth. And if it's so true then why don't more people believe. Why isn't it easier to convince people like me. I'm not even an atheist and I still don't think it's any sacrifice. I don't spread things around the internet as you've chosen to assume. I have what I feel is reasonable doubt and am seeking answers. So far no one can put into words why they believe other than blind faith and that's not what I'm looking for. Even if we should worship and be thankful for creation, the whole Jesus thing seems so insignificant.

Margie Phelps: I was taught this truth from the scriptures.

The reasons it's not "easy" to convince someone like you are these: First, you don't care what the truth is. Second, you never read the Bible. Third, and most important, because by a divine decree you have been blinded, your heart has been hardened, and you are like a brute beast made to be taken and destroyed.

Those are all Bible terms I just used. If you owned a Bible, and got a concordance out, you could easily study these things yourself. And you would see they are so.

Whether or not you ever actually grasp them, and believe them, is exclusively in God's control.

The issue is not by what form you spread these lies you pretend to believe. The issue is that they are lies. And no matter how many cutesy little human-speak e-mails you write or words you utter, what you speak will still be lies.

Only a heathen walking in utter darkness would suggest "this whole Jesus thing" is unimportant. Until you fully understand that you are a dark, depraved creature, deserving of hell from birth, you have no understanding of your need for a redeemer. Until you have an understanding of your need for a redeemer, to save you, you don't have a clue about Jesus. And the way a person ends up in that condition -- that you are in -- is by worshipping the creature (you) instead of the Creator (God). That also, by the way, is how they end up being a God-hating fag.

My deluded friend, you are on a slippery slope to hell. You are duty bound to fear God and keep his commandments. You have been given the ability to read and reason. You are obligated to KNOW what the Bible says, thoroughly. You are obligated to OBEY what is says, in all things. Instead, you glibly decry your lack of empathy for the need for a saviour.

Well, as I indicated in my earlier e-mail, hold that happy thought. Then see when you are appearing before the great White Throne whether you may have miscalculated the situation. BIG TIME.

Thanks.
Margie

E-mail Exchange #3
Anonymouse: You know I didn't like the name of your site but took the opportunity to send some emails, in good faith mind you, and maybe learn something or at least get another point of view in my little quest for knowledge. I admit to not knowing much about the bible and religion as a whole but, the way you responded was quite disturbing. I did and still do appreciate the fact that you did take the time to respond but I searched the net for info on Margie Phelps and found some disturbing stuff, including the grandkids of Fred Phelps holding anti-fag signs. The little boy was wearing a mask, kind of KKK-ish. I think it's incredibly sad that you're such an extremist and you are now FORCING your offspring into it. It saddens me in the way a two year old wearing a sheet and KKK hood on some stupid daytime talk show about racial violence. It saddens me in the same fashion as going over to a co-workers house and watching him share a bag of weed with his father. Or a young boy disrespecting his mother because he sees his father doing it. These kids don't have choices and people like you are corrupting them with your extremist ways when they are too young to know any better. Maybe you never had a choice either, or none of us have choices because it's God's will, who knows. I believe we should all be civil to one another and not preach hate. The godhatesfags site in itself is pitiful. To think that one guy with a bad disposition for an alternate lifestyle can fuel the flames of hate and add that extra push to the giant snow ball of violence which never seems to stop rolling over the planet. I may be going to hell but when I get there I will not stop laughing when I see the Phelps name on the mailbox across the street from Satan's mansion. Fred Phelps is an evil cult leader and Satan himself, I'm sure, will be happy to have him at his side. Like David Koresh to the likes of Hitler, he feeds on people's weakness and fears to serve a purpose he might even know is wrong but can't control. Religion can be good. Faith is better. But too much of anything is never a positive thing. I'm may not be the most religious person but I will pray for the souls of those kids your "church" is brainwashing. As for the rest of you...well, see you in hell.

Margie Phelps: You have a strange approach my friend.

In the most hateful words you can generate out of your heart, mind and tongue ... condemning me for hate. Me who has done nothing but tell you the truth.

Is it so difficult a leap of logic to understand that when it's cold outside, it's a good idea to wear a face mask? That's all the boy holding the sign was doing.

Spare me your feigned concern about our children. They are, without exception, well cared for, intelligent, high functioning, responsible, strong hearted, good hearted children, with glory in their step. The alternative this world has to offer is a bunch of illiterate, self-indulgent, unfocused, immodest, uncaring young people whose favorite passtimes are impregnating or killing each other? And you demand -- in the most angry words imaginable -- that we opt for that choice instead? You are truly out of touch.

As for your lame (and remarkably unoriginal) attempt to liken our message of God's blessed hatred to racial violence, here are a few facts for you to ponder. First, God never said being black (or any other race) is an abomination. He said being a fag is. Second, being born black is not a choice. Being a fag -- and marching up and down Main Street bragging about being a fag -- is. Third, you're having an e-mail conversation with a person who has been a civil right lawyers for almost 22 years. I know what legitimate minorities are. And are not.

It's interesting after you cuss and fuss about us -- basing your entire case on some goofy lies generated by people who, like you, hate our message -- you end up promising to see us in hell. That means you believe in hell. So how misguided are you that you would believe in hell, but curse us for warning people not to go there? Are you on some kind of medication?

Let's cut to the case: You hate God. You're feeding on some filthy sin. You've got all the bizarre fag-speak and human-think down to an art. You never contacted us with an eye toward doing anything but bitterly complaining against our message. You've had every opportunity to ask questions and get courteous replies. You don't care what is true. You care what pleases you. And, my friend, you are in for a rude awakening when you appear before God and learn that this is not about you. It's about God.

You've gotten all the attention and warning any human deserves. You now go into the delete column. Meanwhile, fear God, keep his commandments, don't be or enable a fag, and stop all the psychobabble.

Thanks for writing.
Margie Phelps

End Note From Anonymouse
Anonymouse: After my brief contact with Margie Phelps (or possibly her answering service, they get lots of hate mail, I'm guessing) I realized a couple things: First off, they are full of hate and hate can be contagious. Although my inquiries were honorable at first, I became more and more pissed off just due to the knowledge that people like that exist. The questions I ask are more to question the beliefs of others and don't really reflect my own personal views. I just wonder how people can be so convinced of something that they base their entire life on it, without question and how they came to accept them. I don't want to come off sounding like they're wrong and I know better. or all I know the next person I ask will have the answers that would totally change my life. Even Margie had some good points. It's too bad that her name is only associated with hate.

Second: Margie and I are too far apart to be spokespeople for this type of "negotiation". I like all types. I only hate individuals. I hate my job but not because my boss is gay. That's a none issue.

Third: Regardless of what Margie stated, I didn't base any of my last angry email on my personal beliefs. I just tried to say what I thought would get under her skin but now realize it's all been done before. I wanted to slightly alter my email address and send her another message but that's probably been done too. So I'm doing this instead.

Last: Some people are so blind and prejudice that there's no way to get anything through to them. We all have beliefs that won't change but hopefully they don't involve such a focused hatred. After learning about this site, I was overcome with hate and lowered myself. It still pisses me off that people like that are out there. The Phelps are worse, because of their stature and influence. We need to remember that they are a minority and we should hold on to the belief that most of the people of this world have more love in their hearts.